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taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if taxes go december 31st, will the republican party be blamed? >> absolutely. right now, people aren't convinced that either the president or congressional republicans are serious about negotiating. but they're a lot more willing to believe that the president is negotiating in good faith. >> and let me ask you. is the republican party therefore becoming the party of the rich, defending the top tax brackets, and is obama becoming the party of the middle class? >> absolutely. and larry, the reason the republicans are in this fix right now is because they think these discussions and negotiations are about deficit reduction. president obama thinks they're about fairness. most americans, solid majority, want to see taxes raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don
, this fiscal tax, cliff tax cliff. lori: we're with you. >> not going to happen. just not going to happen. there is no incentive to do so. lori: except for the fact shares evaporated so much from the $700 peak, right? >> yeah. the special dividend shows some assertiveness, financial strength, yes we have all the cash we can put it to work. at this point over the last three months apple shares have been down 17%. i think it is coming into question whether apple is the same apple that it was five years ago. melissa: for sure. >> it could certainly signal something but not going to happen right now. lori: appreciate that report. thanks, shibani. melissa: as more investors look for inflation hedges, hedge funds and endowments are hiding or adding hard assets to their stock portfolio. one to look at is medallion financial. robert gray spoke exclusively with the company's president. >> that's right, melissa. you can literally hail it as a public proxy for assets whose meter is running higher than other asset classes for decades. investors have long thought stock tips by cab drivers signal ad ma
the program. >> reporter: and, of course, going off the so-called fiscal cliff means a tax hike for just about everybody who does have a job. but today, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week. but late today, diane, one possible sign of progress. the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said, but the stock market closed higher today with traders, at least, apparently optimistic that a deal will be reached. >> one phone call can do that. okay, thank you, jonathan karl. >>> and now, we head overseas to cairo. another day of bloodshed and chaos there. battles erupting in
insistence that key to the u.s. beginning to pay down its debt and avoid going over the fiscal cliff is raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up, and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: if republicans agree to do that, the president told bloomberg television, he'll agree to serious spending cuts. republicans have offered to raise taxes on higher incomes by $800 billion, not by raising tax rates, but by eliminating some deductions and loopholes. during last year's budget showdown, the president said he wanted to do exactly that. >> what we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> reporter: but now the president does not. he says it will not raise enough revenue. >> it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's just a m
also watching as both sides inch to the fiscal cliff. not only are your taxes in the balance so are the 401ks. and today, ood holiday bonus, gas prices. we bring in bianna golodryga. you look at gas prices. write on pace to set a record. >> the average american household is expected to spend $4,000 a year on gasoline alone. and gas at 3.93 a gallon and today, take a look at this, $3.35 and by miscase time, estimates we will see 3.20. a lot has to do with post sandy. the supply is back up and the hope is that consumers will take the money and spend it shopping. >> that is the hope. and jobs number, better than expected. unemployment now to 7.7%. and bianna, people watching tonight, where are the jobs? >> that is the question. we did digging and not a surprise. retail up, $53,000 up in, and professional, hospitality and restaurants. and will it continue? they are not so sure given what is going on in washington. >> bianna, thank you. >>> in the nfl today, they were mourning their tragic loss. the dallas cowboys bowing their heads in a moment of silence to remember their teammate j
go up. and you know, there are some taxes that would go up if we two off the fiscal cliff. you're talking about a family that makes about $50,000 having a tax increase of $4,000. melissa: congresswoman, this drives me crazy. when we look at all the numbers we immediately start talking about taxes. it seems like we're looking for revenue under every single rock. that's fine. even if we raised taxes that are proposed by the white house, it will raise $82 billion. it is one half of 1% of the problem. we have a $16.3 trillion debt. all of this talk about raising taxes doesn't get us even close to solving the problem. it doesn't even start the conversation. it is not a drop in the bucket. we've got to reform our spending or grow the economy. but just raising taxes isn't going to do it. >> well, i agree with you 100%. that's why the president as well as the democrats have called for a balanced approach. so of course we can't raise enough taxes to completely deal with the deficit. and you do have to do reforms. you need to reform the tax system. you certainly need to make additional c
we haven't reached any agreement on the fiscal cliff, we don't know what next year's tax structure is going to look like, how has that impacted caterpillar's plan? the deadlines of the fiscal cliff is driving us into our corners and i talk every day to our customers around this country, around the world sometimes for that matter, and in this country and they are scared to death what happens in january. nobody knows. going over the cliff is not an option we stare in the face. they'll figure out a way to get us through this in one form or fashion. there's outlandish guesses on both sides. i don't think we should risk it at all. if we do go over the downside is capex for next year, what could or should we do if everything slows down, i don't want to have to face and decide that. our outlook for 2013 is morms what 2012 is. that's the best we can see and they're three weengz away from the beginning of the year. >> i'll look forward to the day when you're in here again and can sit here for two hours and we'll run v.o. of big caterpillar equipment and talk about what's going on in china a
, it made big moves to the upside. i think this is all fiscal cliff and tax related selling here. i don't think it's core, that rumor that because they moved up margins -- >> what do you do? your brother says stay away. >> i think he's right. you don't add to it until the final weeks of december. >> he didn't say stay away. >> did he say buy it? >> he said own it. >> if he thinks it's going up. >> if he loves it so much, why don't you buy more here? absolutely. on november 16th the stock rallied, took a little bit off, and i still believe on a tact tactical basis that's the right move, at least for me. longer-term time frame it is generational. it looks most like a bond. it's a bond-friendly type of asset. that's why i want to own it. now, john and pete are talking about what potentially could turn it. you have to look forward into the earnings season and understand the potential for the number of iphones to be sold to hit 50 million. now, the reason that it was down 9 of 11 weeks, why did that begin? it began on the conversation of iphone five constraints. you wanted to order an iphone
and focusing on the expiring tax cuts as we near this fiscal cliff. we're going to bring their remarks live as they happen. first, christine romans has a look at what it would be like he if the country let those tax cuts expire, and we go off the so-called fiscal cliff. >> reality track says one in three homes sold short. right now you don't owe taxes on the forgiven debt. on the other side of the fiscal cliff you do. it gives homeowners a tax break on unpaid mortgage debt and expires on december 31st unless congress acts. >> the average amount that homeowners are short in a short sale is $95,000. if this tax break goes away as part of the so-called fiscal cliff, those homeowners could be taxed on that $95,000 as additional income starting in 2013. >> how much homeowners will owe in taxes on that amount depending on the tax bracket they're in. on average it would be between 20 to $25,000. the banks have an extra incentive to stel short and absorb the loss. under the national mortgage settlement act that went into effect earlier this year, the nation's biggest lenders get a credit for short
cliff, that combination of tax increases and deep federal spending cuts. nancy cordes reports, the back- and-forecast showed no sign of letting up today 20 white house and republicans in congress. dr reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama nignaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare agd medicaid if republicans atree to raise tax rates for the rich. fini'm willing to find ways to cing down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and dther americans who depend on it. and i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending duts i signed into law last year. >> reporter: his remarks came one day after house speaker john aehner announced the talks were stalled. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> reporter: his democratic counter-part, nancy pelosi, blamed boehner for the stalemate. >> what they offered in return nas an empty letter, lacking in the fics. 3 dreporter: such is the state of negotiations 23 days before nhe deadline, when federal era le tax rates will revert t
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to take the plunge over the fiscal cliff if he doesn't get the tax increases over the wealthy. but will republicans agree to a broader deal? we have that conversation just ahead. when we come back right here, we're going to huddle around the water cooler. we have to get some space. let's put them in another room. allen simpson resorts to dancing "gangnam style" to make people interested about the debt. >> that's not pretty. >> we'll be right back. >>> i'm over. i'm done. >> let's go to the control room. >> we hear it's a strong -- >> what's your nickname? >> i know you know korean pop phenom and his song is one of your favorites. >> you should see my brother do this. >> you're not alone. it's youtube's most watched video. it even rubbed off on the debate over the national debt, specifically on 81-year-old senator allen simpson. >> stop instagramming your breakfast and getting on youtube until you can see "gangnam style." ♪ and start using those precious social media skills and go out and sign people up on this baby, three people a week. let it grow. take part or get taken ap
administration is more than willing to let america go right over the fiscal cliff. and he will not budge on the president's demands to raise taxes on the top income earners. >> if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely, an agreement doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2%, only 2%, and all of those americans get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> well, what if the obama administration lets it happen? what happens to the average american family. joining us here, is congressman randy forbes, nice to have you on the show. >> thank you, governor. >> let me ask you something, do you feel that the president actually wants it to happen so it gives him some political advantage? >> well, governor, i just have to judge that by two things, first of all, what i'm hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side and told me as late as last week, they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we've argued all along they'll start by simply taxing everybody above 200,000, but that will contin
of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as more and more dangerous leverage, they're likely going to get blamed for that, too. and that will be much worse in the polls. republicans may believe the white house can be so afraid of default that it would
. >>> wall street also watching as both sides inch to the fiscal cliff. not only are your taxes in the balance, so are americans' 401(k)s. and today, a holiday bonus, gas prices. we bring in bianna golodryga. the anchor of weekend "gma." you look at gas prices. on a pace to set a record. >> the average american household is expected to spend $4,000 a year on gasoline alone. remember, earlier this year, we saw gas prices at 3.92 a gallon back in april in the summertime. some places in the country, $5 a gallon. today, take a look at this, $3.35 and by christmas time, estimates say we will see $3.20 a gal don. a lot has to do with post sandy. the supply is back up and the hope is that consumers will take the money and spend it shopping. >> that is the hope. and jobs number, better than expected. unemployment now to 7.7%. and bianna, people watching tonight, where are the jobs? >> that is the question. we did some digging and here is what we found. not a surprise. retail up, 53,000 up in, and professional, hospitality and restaurants. hotels and 23,000 and health care up 20,000. the
, going over the fiscal cliff will trigger huge hikes in the death tax. >> our wealth editor robert frank breaks it down now. >> thanks, bill. the estate tax could go up even more and become a big problem for any kind of cliff deal. let's take a look. the current tax is around 30%. only those worth $5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff, it will shoot to 55%. anyone with an estate with $1 million or more will have to file. that will cost many more in the estate tax. many prefer the tax is abolished. obama wants a 45% rate and $3.5 million cutoff. that's midway between today's rates and the old rate. now the problem is even some democrats are siding with republicans. they say they want to keep the current rates. so all sides here remain very far apart. this matters because wealthy families need to rewrite their wills, their charity plans. and for the country there are hundreds of billions of dollars of taxes at stake. it's also a hugely symbolic tax. the left says these estate taxes are important to curb family dynasties. and they also call it the paris hilton tax. the rig
'm larry custody low. this is kwoez custody. all right. some possible optimism on the fiscal cliff. the gop seems to be in a strategic retreat and is likely to allow middle class tax cut bill to pass before december 31. now that's what my washington contacts are telling me. there are many bells and whistles. i believe that's likely. the president went to detroit today to send the fiscal plan and came out against the michigan right to work effort like he did in wisconsin and he's going to lose this one in michigan. meanwhile the economy and jobs are improving but the use of budget busting food stamps continues to soar. could the aggressive food stamp reason why? wait until you hear some of the radio ads. >>> proeb jumped head first into a right to work law today in michigan. eamon javers has the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and b
, the fiscal cliff, the dividend tax rate, a power company ceo will tell us about his biggest concern if a deal doesn't get done by the end of the year. >>> also, what the ceo of walmart thinks about that, as well. he had really explosive data. mike duke last night. we'll bring it to you. "squawk box" is coming back. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased spe
in favor of cutting these taxes that have been raised because we did not solve this before the fiscal cliff. he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can position himself as sort of the protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear incentives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff. do i think that's what he wants? probably not, but do i think there are incentives for him to do it temecula. gerri: never looked at it that way. as you look at this debate on going, there are a lot of folks who say we will be flirting with recession or in recession if we do go over the cliff. do you agree? >> that happens only if we go off the cliff and stay off for an extended amount of time. to we don't go into recession just because we don't have a resolution on january the first. it's a question of whether we have no resolution at that time but it seems that it's likely to a come within a short time. the longer we go into january with no resolution the more likely that
cuts that have come to be known as the fiscal cliff and today republicans stood by their offer to close some tax loopholes and limit deductions and called on the for the give them a new plan that the congress could. president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
cliff. you'll raise some taxes, yes, that's true, you'll cut defense and some human services. this is the only way we'll have a significant bite out of this deficit. i think the market is going to like this. they say no right now, but when they see that this government is taking on the deficit in a serious way i think they will like it >> you don't think going over the cliff is armageddon? >> this is just nonsense, absolutely not. this is a bipartisan deal that was made. now both parties are trying to welch on their commitments. i think that's a mistake. >> steve, ben bernanke said today if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if it's for a short period of time, it's going to be very costly and they do not have the tools to basically dig us out of it. do you believe if we go over the fiscal cliff it won't be as easy as the governor is suggesting? >> we're in trouble anyway this quarter and the next quarter and putting on taxes of any kind would be the wrong thing to do. sometimes the governor is a former physician, current physician, and you learn first go don't harm the pati
the fiscal cliff. the president is refusing to compromise on letting tax cuts expire on incomes of more than $250,000 a year. g.o.p. leaders are calling that a job killer and a deal breaker. of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what they discussed suggests that they're hopeful of a deal, although i have to tell you. the president sounded pre
their fiscal cliff end game. give in on taxes and take the economy hostage again. congressman chris van hollen responds tonight. >>> somehow raising the medicare eligibility age is back in the fiscal cliff discussion. david cay johnston says it would be -- to do it, and he is here tonight. >> what we shouldn't be doing is try to take away your rights to bargain for better working conditions. >> in michigan, the president stands up for workers like he has never done before. >> these so-called right the work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. >> tonight the president's big speech, and why the fight in michigan is an assault on workers everywhere. >>> plus, major news on a white house push for immigration reform. in 40 years after man's last trip to the moon, a return voyage may be a reality. astronomer derrick ditz will tell you why the golden spike is a big deal. good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. the new republican strategy is to take the american economy hostage when they don't get what they want. they realize their back is
very much. >>> one aspect of the fiscal cliff debate that hasn't been hardly noticed is the estate tax. how much gets taxed when the move is moved from one generation it the next? >> death and taxes may be certain, but the death tax as its called is in limbo. the reason, well, the fiscal cliff. the current rate is 35%. only those estates worth 5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff the rate shoots up to 55%. anyone worth an estate worth $1 million or more has it file. that will catch tens of thousands of tax payers in the net of the estate tax. republicans want it abolished or current rates to be made permanent. obama wants 45% rate and 3.5 million cut off. that mid way between today's rates and old rate. the problem is that even some democrats are siding with republicans saying they want it keep current rates. all the sides here tyler remain very far apart. wealthy families need 20 rewrite their wills and charity plans. for the country, there are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. under old rates, they raise $532 billion by 2021. obama plan raised around $270 bi
cliff if republicans don't agree to tax hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to celebrate, but they wouldn't characterize what they discussed in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: today, president obama and house republicans are locked in a political stare down. with neither side
has been falling, people selling ahead of the fiscal cliff, fearing capital gains, tax hike, fear that china mobile will take longer to start selling the iphone given it's already picked up nokia's latest lumia. reports apple is asking for fewer iphone 5 parts from suppliers and people wrapping that in with fears apple is losing phone market share to android and dealing with compressed margins from ipad mini and other products. as a reporter covering the company i wonder if some of us have crossed over to irrational despondency on apple. tim cook set a high bar in revenue for the quarter, he just had a big opportunity to drop a hint in interviews with nbc's brian williams and bloomberg "business week." so far it seems he didn't do that. iphone 5 supplies coming into balance available to ship in two to four business days online. ipad mini demand outstripped supply which could mean margins are better than apple projected. there are open questions on the pro and con side of apple but the most important ones, these questions can apple ramp iphone supply ahead of the quarter and will d
to "hardball." today president obama again made clear there will be no deal to avert the so-called fiscal cliff without the rich paying a higher tax rate. got it? higher rate. in this interview on bloomberg tv, he made it. let's listen. >> the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms in entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up, and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> there you heard it again, top rates have to go up, and rates. and some republicans are saying that the gop will ultimately say uncle. conservative columnist byron york, a very smart guy, wrote, quote, republicans will cave on the question of raising the tax rate for the highest income americans. the only question is whether they do so before or after the government goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. "new york times" columnist david brooks describes it this way. republicans will be raising middle c
the fiscal cliff republicans and the president are out campaigning on their tax plans. president obama is in northern virginia meeting with a middle class family. republicans are speaking with small business owners. both say the other side's reluctance to relent on their positions will harm the economy. back to you. >> rich edson, i wish someone would take a limit away on my credit card. that would be nice. ashley: instead of campaigning they should be talking to each other and getting this thing done. when it comes to the market stocks are hanging on every word coming out of washington. we've seen it hourly if not by the minute. even with the wild moves our next guest says now is the good time to get into the market because going over the cliff has been priced in. joining us milton ms. rought at this, lord abbett chief market strategist. thanks for joining us. if it is priced in why are we seeing these gyrations with every statement coming out of washington? >> it is not entirely priced into the market. the market obviously would like to hear good news. it wants to hear some kind of a
into the fiscal cliff meaning that neither party will let the tax cuts expire. i think republicans are going to stay at a retreat and voting to extend the middle class tax cuts. that will avoid the miss kal cliff situation. and i may not like this deal at all. one reason stocks are behaving wellky well. speaker john boehner is pushing the president to offer spending cuts. so with 20 days to grow, is this likely? am i going to be proven right or whong? larry, we are going to avoid the fiscal cliff resection. the white house is acting with impunity right now. and the white house is so far said look, we want to continue talking about one quarter of the president's own architecture. the president said there was a three to one ratio between savings and cuts and revenue. but they have been silent on this. >> little bit of breaking news. >> wow, the studio is shaking. mr. bhoener is at $800 million. no new information on then ti e ti tiltment. i'm suggesting. it is a game of chicken. neither party can afford this kind of recession. after what we've been through we can't take it. if that meanstendin
are concerned about the fiscal cliff, because of taxes. we are saving, absolutely. we're holding on any types of expansion. in an economy that's like desperate for jobs, that shouldn't be the case. there's really no politics when you have to balance the budget like we do in business every day. it's the same here. i would like lawmakers in congress to compromise and make a settlement, avoid the fiscal cliff, and move on. >> welcome back to our sal mission critical rise above d.c. coverage. i'm jim cramer. becky quick. we're coming to you from capitol hill. and we're here encouraging lawmakers to rise above partisan politics and negotiate a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining us now senator ron johnson, republican from wisconsin. thanks so much for coming. >> good morning. >> i'm getting worried here. because clock is ticking. should we allow a vacation without legislation? >> no, i'm happy to stay here until we get this thing fixed. understand how absurd this process is. we've done this with the debt ceiling. with the super committee. now we're back here again where we've got two people, a
progress or lack thereof on the looming fiscal cliff. david: live with the very latest proposals, if there are any real ones. >> all of this with a sense of optimism from both sides. no movement to secure a deal. wanting immediate tax rate hikes on the wealthy on the spending cuts. latest offer, $1.4 trillion in new tax revenue down from a previous offer of 1.6 trillion. and willingness to begin corporate tax reform. house speaker john boehner says that deal fell short. speak of the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards as laid out the day after the election. the plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. >> it is not a realistic position to say that we can resolve this by extending tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and vaguely promising that we will lean additional revenue by closing loopholes and counting deductions in a way everyone knows is unrealistic. >> republicans continue to refuse to raise tax rates on wealthier families, the official claims a concession would open a pathway to a
be addressed now on the comprehensive and efficient fashion. >> in the fiscal cliff negotiation. so what should this mean? because i think i could interpret any given number to say, oh, that means we shouldn't touch taxes for the upper brackets because the economy still needs as much money as it can have in it. or i could argue, oh, this means that we need more stimulus to keep the jobs going, or i could look at the debt and say, oh, this means we need to cut spending. so what does it mean? so what would you, and what globally, what would mean the most for the u.s. to do in terms of the global economy? >> you know, what you said, you would qualify as an economist. on the one hand, on the other hand. the truth of the matter is that the best way out of this would be a balanced solution because you will always fine a school of thoughts that will say it's much better to cut spending, and you will find another school of thought that says it's much better town crea increase the r and cut taxes and there are those that say you need to cut deficits now and in the long run. we have seen studies of all s
the fiscal cliff. republicans are saying hey, let's continue the bush tax cuts, let's make this fair for everyone but let's stop spending. we are spending more than we have. democrats are saying now they are saying it doesn't matter, we are not focused on the deficit anymore. we want to keep spending so we're going to raise taxes. >> don't touch spending. if you touch spending do it five or 10 years down the road. let another congress do it. in the meantime raise revenues through tax increases. >> i hear my father's voice. we all grew up with our dads that they saved every penny they had. they came from that generation. my dad would never say ainsley just spend, spend, spend on your credit cards. don't worry about the debt? don't save a dime. if you were running a business your business would have been out of business. >> that's what scary. we love america so much and people are concerned where our country is going. >> email your questions at friends at foxandfriends.com. >> headlines. might be the biggest arrest related to terror attack in benghazi. the "wall street journal" reports
they have been hearing about higher taxes. i do think with all of the media coverage of the fiscal cliff, consumers are starting to recognize that there is something going on. i think people are more aware. i still think those people feel like something will get done at the last minute. i think they are aware that there are some risks out there. melissa: michelle, you are fantastic. thank you so much. >> thank you. take care. adam: some people think investing sometimes is too good to be true. what is the government's (in nailing steve cohen? charlie: i do not think people are focused on the fiscal cliff. they will not be focused until you see the market sell off. the market believes there will be a deal. until the market trade-off -- adam: we have a guest who will be talking about that a little later on as we get closer to the end of the year. the investigation is still underway. charlie: when you see the market trade-off you watch people freak out. interesting thing about steve cohen, there is no more remarkable trader out there than this guy. say what you want to about him. if you look
and the fiscal cliff. republicans want a melt on xwiemtment and tax reform from the president. democrats insist this will not happen until the gop agrees on a tax hike. senator dick durbin saying no deal on the debt without a tax hike of the wealthy. >> i can't tell you, i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it, but we need to solve the problem been we cannot allow the reckless position to drive this economy into another recession. >> some suggesting that it might be better to cave to the president now on taxes and keep up the fight on spending. >> if we were to pass, for instance, raising the top two rate and that's it, all of a sudden we do have the leverage of the debt ceiling and we haven't given that up. >> meantime, one influential voice says enough is enough. >> that's like betting your country. there's something terribly bizarre and juvenile about that is to think your party comes ahead of your country. i don't go for that at all. >> that, of course, was alan simpson, the other half of simpso simpson-bowles. erskin bowles will join us this morning, as well. if you have
. >> reporter: but now with the post-election budget fight in washington over the fiscal cliff, hudson's business faces a battle on three fronts. all of which are up in the air. defense cuts, tax hikes, employee health-care costs. >> uncertainty kills businesses, because you can't plan. you can't program, you can't forecast. >> with defense spending on the chopping block, even with congress avoids the fiscal cliff, hudson predicts that 15% slowdown in orders next year. >> it could be june before we start seeing orders. and if that's true, i will end up laying off people. >> hudson is also concerned about taxes. because it's profits are treated as income, that puts them over 250,000 a year. the level where president obama wants taxes to go up. >> i'm supposedly a risk guy. i don't think so. i think we ought to pay our share. but that could have a significant impact to the point that i may have to lay off one or two more people. >> the financial impact of the affordable health care act is also a question mark as the plan slowly phases in. >> i believe in families and support and the empl
, democratic whip steny hoyer gives me the latest fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new yor
. they are understanding it as we get closer to the fiscal cliff. >> it says a signal to people that the senate passed tax cuts for 98% of americans but they won't do it in the house. that was before the election. and i just holding the ground is going to be important, no question about that. i get a sense the democrats are unified. but going over the cliff, that affects the constituents big time. correct? >> how do you hold that together? >> there's unanimity that july 25th, we passed tax cuts for the 98% to continue this tax policy that they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>>
-time payout of $192 million, because of higher taxes that could come as a result of the fiscal cliff. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to "on the record" with dana perino. than a dozen chrysr workers caught on-camera drinking, getting high on their lunch breaks, then returning to work on a jeep assembly line. you saw this video two years ago. eventually chrysler employees got the axe, but now they're back on the job. we broke the story originally. rob, how did they pull this one off? >> well, they went to arbitration. the arbitrator sided with the workers. so the uaw workers got their jobs back, as simple as that. >> but explain that to me, because most places, people watching across america tonight, would say, okay, if i showed up on the job, drunk or high, hung over, caught on my lunch break, doing something that might impair the people around me, or the actual work i'm doing, i would lose my job. so what do the unions have that others don't have that get them a second chance at a job like this? >> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the vide
with a deal on the fiscal cliff? why? because it represents the beginning of american austerity. higher taxes in the long run, spending cuts in the long run, that is a headwind for stocks. not a tailwind. i know everybody's excited about the deal being made. but a substantial minority believes that's a deal for the fed stocks. the general consensus down here, current purchases, $85 billion, is going to continue. instead of $45 billion from operation twist, operation twist goes away, and you go to outright purchases of treasuries. and you continue with that $40 billion in mortgage-backed security purchases. the $85 billion, they're doing right now, continues in a slightly different form. you guys, we're talking about aig. just two observations on aig. you'll notice here, it looks like to me they're not repurchasing any of their shares. they're dumping a huge amount of shares on the market. aig isn't actually buying it back. that's a signed of strength for the company. the other interesting thing is, the losses on sandy have been coming in recently. aig gave $2 billion in pre-tax losses. you in
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